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Fairytale over as Shane nixes Pogues tour
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Sunday October 30 2011

AFTER recently pulling out of doing a long UK tour with Jools Holland and his big band, wildman Shane MacGowan has now cancelled a scheduled Pogues tour of Australia and Japan for early next year.

The group, who did a 10-date tour of America earlier this year, fought endlessly during the dates in the US, and MacGowan has now declared that he doesn't want to work with any of them again. A music insider said: "Basically, Shane still resents the fact that they threw him out of the band all those years ago. He's never gotten over it. With the exception of Jem Finer, who co-wrote Fairytale of New York with him, he doesn't like any of them anymore."

Shane was ejected during a tour of Japan in the Nineties, and replaced by Joe Strummer of The Clash, and later by Spider Stacey. The source added: "The Pogues have been reforming annually for the past decade, usually for Christmas dates. But that's all over now. He says he's finished with them for good. He doesn't even care about the money." He now has his own band called The Shane Gang, which features Jack Dublin (ex-In Tua Nua and Rocky DeValera and The Gravediggers) and Paul Byrne (ex-In Tua Nua).

He is planning to record an album of new songs with them, and his superstar pal Johnny Depp also wants to contribute to it. Depp has long been a fan of Shane and his songs, and last year played guitar on a charity version of I Put A Spell On You that Shane recorded for Haiti.

Hard-drinking MacGowan recently recovered from a bad bout of the flu, but, according to the source, the singer wasn't really interested in touring with Holland and his band.

"He would have only been doing a few songs per show, but would have pocketed a couple of thousand a night for his work, but he still felt it wasn't worth it. Shane still earns an awful lot of money from his song publishing, especially from Fairytale of New York."

Meanwhile, a new film starring Kiefer Sutherland and Kate Bosworth is to be loosely based on the story of Fairytale of New York.

So similar is the pitch for the film to MacGowan's big Christmas hit that movie insiders are already referring to it as Fairytale of New York.

But one of the producers has insisted that it is not directly based on the hit single, as they are now concerned about potential disputes over money and licensing rights.

Lisa Katselas said: "The feel and emotion of the song, along with the fact that it's a love story that takes place over Christmas and the lead character is Irish, makes it a natural fit. But we don't want to upset the writers -- Shane MacGowan and Jem Finer. We hope it will be a film they would be proud of and want to be associated with. We are now in the process of licensing the song."

But Shane's manager, Joey Cashman, stated: "If they had just taken the title of the song, we would have had no objection with it. If they use the music in the movie, Shane will make more money out of it."

- RICHIE TAYLOR EXCLUSIVE

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http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/fairytale-over-as-shane-nixes-pogues-tour-2920969.html
rocksteady77
Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:22:08 AM
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The Pogues have toured without Shane before .Joe Strummer leaps to mind.Fat chance that happening .Though I did here a rumor that they have enlisted Peter Andre to do the singing.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:40:57 AM
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The article credits the quote to a "music insider"
Our enquiry about the article elecited the response from the Pogues camp
"Bollocks"
Nuff said
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:48:37 AM
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Today The Pogues announced their Australian dates including bluesfest on their website
founding member of The Pogues - Spider Stacy stated that the article about Shane leaving is "bollocks" on his Twitter page.
welcome to the wonderful world of The Pogues.
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Keep up the good news admin. Now where's the Steven Segal announcement??
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It's coming - just need to get the news on how the rehearsals are coming along
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Personally I wouldn't care if Shane wasn't in the band, when he played last time it was more for the novelty value of how can a person survive all these years being permanently pissed & his voice was, for obvious reasons, not as good as it used to be.
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just quietly, i'm probably going to cry when i see the pogues.

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colinsid wrote:
how can a person survive all these years being permanently pissed .

I'ts easy,but takes a lot of practice.


They got the cocaine, oxycontin, mushrooms, marijuana
Vodka, plastic pop-off, twist one off
Yesterday I smoked, today I don't
Yeah, yeah, yeah


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Maccain09 wrote:
Keep up the good news admin. Now where's the Steven Segal announcement??

With Johnny Depp & Kiefer Sutherland both mentioned in the "article", surely he could also rope the Mojo Priest into the BF party.....
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just quietly, i'm probably going to cry when i see the pogues.

Dan, I'll be there shedding a quiet tear too - not only for having the good fortune to see hte Pogues again (it was 1990 when I last did) but for Kirsty McColl who had an argument with a speedboat. Seeing them sing Fairytale together was one of those life-long memories

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I don't think the pogues were ever popular because of Shanes vocal range? I have never touched alcohol in my life but I'm pretty sure Shane would just have a few schooners on the weekend like most of the general public. shouldn't affect his Ability to preform at all. If you want to hear a novelty act go buy the new Metallica + Lou Reed effort, pointless..,
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Maccain09- Here is an exerpt from his wikipedia bio under the heading self destrcutive behavoiur "Shane MacGowan is known for his prolific use of legal and illegal drugs, and his erratic, intoxicated behaviour has often been reported on in the press. MacGowan claims to have been introduced to alcohol and cigarettes by his aunt on the promise he would not worship the devil. In a 2007 interview with the Daily Mirror he told a reporter: "I was actually four when I started drinking. I just remember that Ribena turned into stout and I developed an immediate love for it." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_MacGowan

A few schooners on the weekend? I can never tell if you are serious or not. In regards to his voice here is a difference between vocal range & slurring the lyrics.

He is the only artist i have seen who has cup holders on his mike stand & they weren't filled with water unless it was dirty brown water.
Apparently though he got new teeth in 2009 & the fact he is back in the Pogues may mean he has straightened up.
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Thanks for clearing it up. AWESOME!!!!!!
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I love when people refer to the Wikipedia as their source of "truth", because some other punter decided to update it with garbage. I was in contact with Shane's sister Siobhan up to about 10yrs ago and like any other rock/punk artist he had his wild days, but to believe he has continued that lifestyle and is still alive today is ridiculous. I would say MacCain is not far off the mark when he said the man enjoys a few schooners these days like the rest of us.
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Harveykeitel & Maccain09 I would strongly suggest you google him & you will find countless references to his drunken behaviour not just on Wikipedia which is open source & can be corrected by others as well. His behaviour was the reason he was kicked out of the Pogues in the first place. I would also recommend the film " If I Should Fall From Grace" which documents his life.

As I said he may have sobered up by now but when I saw him play Bluesfest (can't remember the year but it was at Red Devil) he could barely walk, had to use a walking stick to get on stage & was badley slurring the lyrics to his songs. Anyone else who saw him I would surely agree including the the countless people who walked out of the gig.

My reference to the novely act is what you refer to in "to believe he has continued that lifestyle and is still alive today is ridiculous" as he was a sad, sick looking pale toothless man who looked like the walking dead. Personally I hope he has got it together as he can be a great singer & the best way to hear the Pogues, which I do like.

Following recent comments by Bluefest admin I hope you don't delete post as it is how I saw it & not meant to be abusive.
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colinsid wrote:
Harveykeitel & Maccain09 I would strongly suggest you google him & you will find countless references to his drunken behaviour not just on Wikipedia which is open source & can be corrected by others as well. His behaviour was the reason he was kicked out of the Pogues in the first place. I would also recommend the film " If I Should Fall From Grace" which documents his life.

As I said he may have sobered up by now but when I saw him play Bluesfest (can't remember the year but it was at Red Devil) he could barely walk, had to use a walking stick to get on stage & was badley slurring the lyrics to his songs. Anyone else who saw him I would surely agree including the the countless people who walked out of the gig.

My reference to the novely act is what you refer to in "to believe he has continued that lifestyle and is still alive today is ridiculous" as he was a sad, sick looking pale toothless man who looked like the walking dead. Personally I hope he has got it together as he can be a great singer & the best way to hear the Pogues, which I do like.

Following recent comments by Bluefest admin I hope you don't delete post as it is how I saw it & not meant to be abusive.


I think a lot of punters felt pretty much the same way. It was Shane MacGowan and the Popes. He came out with a tumbler full of scotch in one hand and a cigarette in the other, stumbled to the chair and barely managed a shambolic few songs before walking offstage for almost 30 minutes. At which point about a third of the audience walked out whilst the remainder who stayed started to give him some gob...but
....he came back out with the band and they sang and played in the only way Shane MacGowan can do it and were unbelievably fu*king fantastic. It was only 20 minutes worth but quite simply amazing. This is the Pogues and it will be a privilege to see 'em.

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It's unfair to label an artist like Shane a drunkard because of his younger tear away days he let's his hair down on weekends so what? - is Keith Richards a novelty act? I rest my case! I was there at Shane and the popes in BF and those who walked out must have been expecting michael bubble not some folk punk immortal, his solo gig in the metro in sydney was one of the best I've ever attended. He had trouble walking due to a back injury or possibly gout due to poor diet being on the road. I will never forget when he finished his set I asked him to play one more to which he gracefully gave me a 2 finger salute and told me to F@ck off! I was humbled by this gesture of brotherhood from one of the all time greats.
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