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davidbignell
Posted: Friday, April 06, 2018 11:23:34 AM
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What happened to all the forum complaints about
the Bluesfest 2018 front row seating?
mgwfall
Posted: Friday, April 06, 2018 11:53:10 AM
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Gone. They don't like negative feedback here. If nobody mentions the crowd booing, they can pretend the seats were a big hit.

Anyone here on the Forum buy those seats? It would be interesting to hear was it was like from the inside?

2 good points about them, from someone who didn't buy them.
-Effectively they made the B rail front row longer
-The camera on the right side of the stage (as you are looking at the stage) got moved out of the way. Disappointing they wouldn't do that last year when it was still blocking the view of the people up front & disappointing they didn't move the camera on the left back a couple of metres also (but only blocking the standard paying people on that side)
TheLoneRanger
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davidbignell wrote:
What happened to all the forum complaints aboutthe Bluesfest 2018 front row seating?

I agree that the seats were an advantage because it gave much more front rail spots.
About 8 people arrived for set 3 of NPG.
Came in after the set had started & left well before it ended.
Mostly younger people.\
Presumably that was not the set they bought for.

"An artist never really chooses when and where they will play.It is for promoters to make offers.It comes down as to whether tours are financially viable." Quote John Mayall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEHzqildp8
pod2006
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 7:23:07 AM
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Ditto. Or make it available for lottery/ballot with preconditions. No extra fee, but some allocated based on age, and/or infirmity,immobility; some for longevity; loyalty; simply some random. It would be a treat. But selling it reduces the BF brand. The queues weren't for people wanting these seats- they were for women wanting a seat in a loo. More seats in women's loos would be my focus for quality improvement
reader57
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 9:09:41 AM
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Some thoughts on the Front Row seats.

1. At 48 seats (?) per stage the maximum raised would be $144,000.00 AUD or just over $100k USD. Would that be enough to get another reasonable act for the weekend?
2. In our security conscious environment we live in now, how much would the Insurance company be pleased with another five metre buffer between the valuable acts and any risks from the punters.
3. How much would the valuable acts be pleased with the extra buffer? I know some of the acts went out to the audience and that is there choice. It does stress the security guys somewhat!

4. I chose to purchase the add-on for Saturday in Crossroads. I watched every act for the day as they were value. Even the sound check by Clarence Becker Band playing Billy Fields Bad Habits was great.

For that money, I didn't have to worry about getting to a stage early enough to get a good position without a tent support blocking my view. (This is why I prefer open air festivals)
I did the sums and calculated that each act on the day cost me just over $70.00 for basically front row centre seats. I would have trouble getting that even at the local town hall.


However, I was lucky enough that the playing schedule's final version put enough of the acts that I wanted to see all together on one day. The only criticism was the self imposed feeling that I must remained seated and not jump around, even though there was an area behind the seats to do just that. But these days, my knees would have let me know the next day what an idiot I had been, so all good.

I believe it was money well spent! The VIPs and the Press contingents still had the space between the stage and the first barrier to do their thing. I did notice that after the escorted photographers left, any VIPs left were ushered by security away from the centre to the edges. Maybe there is something in the Insurance and the Acts requiring the extra buffer!

It was the MC that brought up the subject of the front row seats in her spiel and the boos I heard then was the only comment I heard from the crowd behind the second Barrier.

As to if I would do it again would depend on the acts on that day. It is a large commitment both in money and attendance. Even I felt saddened by the amount of people who only came for one or part of an act. I believe Robert Plant had his own concept of how that section should act. He laid down his own rules!
Aussiecroc
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 9:55:03 AM
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I have a suggestion. Why not have two semi circles on the floor on the left and right of the stage? That way the fans can still get down the front, and VIP fans can also get access down the front too. Everyone happy!
rstroud
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:06:51 AM
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reader57 wrote:
Some thoughts on the Front Row seats.

1. At 48 seats (?) per stage the maximum raised would be $144,000.00 AUD or just over $100k USD. Would that be enough to get another reasonable act for the weekend?
2. In our security conscious environment we live in now, how much would the Insurance company be pleased with another five metre buffer between the valuable acts and any risks from the punters.
3. How much would the valuable acts be pleased with the extra buffer? I know some of the acts went out to the audience and that is there choice. It does stress the security guys somewhat!

4. I chose to purchase the add-on for Saturday in Crossroads. I watched every act for the day as they were value. Even the sound check by Clarence Becker Band playing Billy Fields Bad Habits was great.

For that money, I didn't have to worry about getting to a stage early enough to get a good position without a tent support blocking my view. (This is why I prefer open air festivals)
I did the sums and calculated that each act on the day cost me just over $70.00 for basically front row centre seats. I would have trouble getting that even at the local town hall.


However, I was lucky enough that the playing schedule's final version put enough of the acts that I wanted to see all together on one day. The only criticism was the self imposed feeling that I must remained seated and not jump around, even though there was an area behind the seats to do just that. But these days, my knees would have let me know the next day what an idiot I had been, so all good.

I believe it was money well spent! The VIPs and the Press contingents still had the space between the stage and the first barrier to do their thing. I did notice that after the escorted photographers left, any VIPs left were ushered by security away from the centre to the edges. Maybe there is something in the Insurance and the Acts requiring the extra buffer!

It was the MC that brought up the subject of the front row seats in her spiel and the boos I heard then was the only comment I heard from the crowd behind the second Barrier.

As to if I would do it again would depend on the acts on that day. It is a large commitment both in money and attendance. Even I felt saddened by the amount of people who only came for one or part of an act. I believe Robert Plant had his own concept of how that section should act. He laid down his own rules!


Thanks for your perspective - and very honest. I am conflicted. On one hand I don't think it's a good look and changes the culture of BF. On the other, if there was an act/s on one night (ie ELO, Aretha, Jamiroquai etc), I would be sorely tempted. But as you say, you feel like you're in a chookpen and can't fully party. Some of the buzz of the BF performances is being in the crowd and bouncing off the punters' vibes (emotionally and physically !).

Another point, I heard some musos didn't like the $300 rows as they like to play off the crowd, seeing their reactions and this physical separation adds to their feeling of detachment.

Rod S
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http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/07/04/3795862.htm

I posted a similar request elsewhere but the whole thread got deleted ??????
The Jason Recliners are a must next year, so smooth and relaxing


Meet the Jason Recliners
By Terri Begley and Rosanna Ryan

The Jason Recliners explore modern Australian life through blues, soul and jazz, and they've entered Exhumed to share their sound with the world.
Named after lounge chairs, they play once a month at the Coorparoo Bowls Club to a regular crowd that's most made up of their families, along with a few eccentric fans.

Joe Kelly - who plays guitars and ukulele - tells the story of their favourite audience member.

"He comes along and makes a grand entrance, walks across, bows to the audience then somehow procures himself a broomstick, which he dances to, and then encourages other people to get up, and has a fine time," he says.

"And usually he'll convince at least one female to dance with him - he'll discard the broomstick at that point. Then after one or two dances he departs."

Vyvyan Black does vocals and plays the trumpet, flugelhorn and blues harp.

He says he started the band by putting an ad in Time Off magazine saying, "Old farts wanted".


http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/07/04/3795862.htm

Chair Power

Heading out for the East Coast / Lord knows I've paid some dues gettin' through, / Tangled up in blues.
skot20_58
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 12:26:07 PM
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Another point, I heard some musos didn't like the $300 rows as they like to play off the crowd, seeing their reactions and this physical separation adds to their feeling of detachment.

Rod S[/quote]


Some of the performances in the larger tents seemed lacklustre this year. The smaller stages performances where not.


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TheLoneRanger
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:27:35 PM
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skot20_58 wrote:
Some of the performances in the larger tents seemed lacklustre this year.

Lauryn Hill I agree but New Power Generation were mindblowingly fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW9w1QkFO-g
To top it off they even had a rapper.

"An artist never really chooses when and where they will play.It is for promoters to make offers.It comes down as to whether tours are financially viable." Quote John Mayall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEHzqildp8
skot20_58
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:10:58 PM
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TheLoneRanger wrote:
skot20_58 wrote:
Some of the performances in the larger tents seemed lacklustre this year.

Lauryn Hill I agree but New Power Generation were mindblowingly fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW9w1QkFO-g
To top it off they even had a rapper.



Agreed


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c0kebloke
Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:21:44 PM
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greybeard wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/07/04/3795862.htm

I posted a similar request elsewhere but the whole thread got deleted ??????
The Jason Recliners are a must next year, so smooth and relaxing


Meet the Jason Recliners
By Terri Begley and Rosanna Ryan

The Jason Recliners explore modern Australian life through blues, soul and jazz, and they've entered Exhumed to share their sound with the world.
Named after lounge chairs, they play once a month at the Coorparoo Bowls Club to a regular crowd that's most made up of their families, along with a few eccentric fans.

Joe Kelly - who plays guitars and ukulele - tells the story of their favourite audience member.

"He comes along and makes a grand entrance, walks across, bows to the audience then somehow procures himself a broomstick, which he dances to, and then encourages other people to get up, and has a fine time," he says.

"And usually he'll convince at least one female to dance with him - he'll discard the broomstick at that point. Then after one or two dances he departs."

Vyvyan Black does vocals and plays the trumpet, flugelhorn and blues harp.

He says he started the band by putting an ad in Time Off magazine saying, "Old farts wanted".


http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/07/04/3795862.htm

Chair Power


Best idea I’ve seen in regard to bf.
The recliner is something I live for & when it comes to comfort it’s literally the only place I’m comfy these days…of course it would have to include a drink holder. 🍺
If they were on offer I’d be at every fest every day all day…Bring on the recliners!!!
Life’s a lot more easy in an easy chair https://youtu.be/XkmA61djaDY



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katieforfree
Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:56:07 AM
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As an older woman front row for me at the barrier is not to be taken lightly. I did it for Tom Jones, Paul Simon, Patti Smith, and a few others over the years where front row was not so difficult. If an act is one I would really want to see I would pay the $300 but I can also do without it. I did not see many people sitting in the seats at the Crossroads when I got near enough to view them. Now if there was a recliner with chair service I could do that easily.
dreamer12
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I was fortunate enough to have front row seating @ Crossroads on Sunday night. To see Seal , Mel Etheridge & Sheryl Crow from this vantage point was outstanding, something very special. Personally I wouldn't hesitate on perchasing a front row seating again. My only recommendation is to allocate all profits to a designated charity to show its not just a money grab. Applause
kielsteel
Posted: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:28:00 AM
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Please dont have these again this year,
i know its revenue raising but for the joy of handful of people with money, thousands of peoples experience was compromised.
zabadooba
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the times I went up the front those seats were empty. I'd be interested to know what was the maximum filled for any one performance.
IMO it was a big mistake and hopefully is dumped for next year
TheLoneRanger
Posted: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:38:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPuL7-AtKo
Due to a larger rail,I had a spot at it for this set,which was a clear advantage of having the front seats.
I have no issue with Bluesfest trying this concept to see if there is a demand.
Perhaps with a strong lineup there would have been more demand.
As for cost,We paid $30 per night for backpackers.
Some paid $100 per night for upmarket locations.
$70 times 6 = $420.
How much did patrons on average spend on alcohol per day ?
The front row seats were not necessarily elitism,they were a choice of what you spend your money on.
Cokebloke will tell you about the homeless girl living in the tent in Byron who managed to find $200 to buy a one day ticket because she wanted to see Jason Isbell.
Surprisingly also saw her wandering around the next day,so she must have scraped up the funds for another day.
So she must have choose the Bluesfest experience over buying food,which she desperately looked like she needed.
Noted a few homeless people living on the street on Byron,with all their belongings piled up on the pavement.


"An artist never really chooses when and where they will play.It is for promoters to make offers.It comes down as to whether tours are financially viable." Quote John Mayall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEHzqildp8
c0kebloke
Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 9:56:59 AM
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TheLoneRanger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPuL7-AtKo
Due to a larger rail,I had a spot at it for this set,which was a clear advantage of having the front seats.
I have no issue with Bluesfest trying this concept to see if there is a demand.
Perhaps with a strong lineup there would have been more demand.
As for cost,We paid $30 per night for backpackers.
Some paid $100 per night for upmarket locations.
$70 times 6 = $420.
How much did patrons on average spend on alcohol per day ?
The front row seats were not necessarily elitism,they were a choice of what you spend your money on.
Cokebloke will tell you about the homeless girl living in the tent in Byron who managed to find $200 to buy a one day ticket because she wanted to see Jason Isbell.
Surprisingly also saw her wandering around the next day,so she must have scraped up the funds for another day.
So she must have choose the Bluesfest experience over buying food,which she desperately looked like she needed.
Noted a few homeless people living on the street on Byron,with all their belongings piled up on the pavement.

Not sure if she was In a tent this year but she was last year until small flash floods made her move.
She camped near the bf site & snuck in last year - considering she's bout as thin as a guitar string she could squeeze past any thing.
After getting flooded she was told she could sleep on a storage container & that concrete floor would have been hard.
Next day I told her to jump in my cab if she was going to town & she snuck into the caravan park I was at & camped each night then woke early so she could be gone before anyone noticed
She got 1 wristband cheap & a mate slipped her band so she could have it for the day this year.
She came over to my joint once & brought a smoke so I told her you can stay for a bit have a drink or coffee shower & feed take a doggy bag before you go.
She didn't bother with food as she had no fridge but had just a little to drink as she's not a drinker.
Saw her at the rails on Tuesday.


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